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https://asiatimes.com/2024/11/germany-i ... d-economy/David Goldman writes that markets perceive Donald Trump’s potential tariffs as a greater threat to Europe than to China. Germany, in particular, faces acute challenges, as soaring energy costs after the Ukraine war have crippled its energy-intensive industries.
Most of W Europe is at risk of turning into a museum.Miss_faucie_fishtits wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024 01:43https://asiatimes.com/2024/11/germany-i ... d-economy/David Goldman writes that markets perceive Donald Trump’s potential tariffs as a greater threat to Europe than to China. Germany, in particular, faces acute challenges, as soaring energy costs after the Ukraine war have crippled its energy-intensive industries.
Or a theme park....'>.......Typhoon wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024 20:33Most of W Europe is at risk of turning into a museum.Miss_faucie_fishtits wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024 01:43https://asiatimes.com/2024/11/germany-i ... d-economy/David Goldman writes that markets perceive Donald Trump’s potential tariffs as a greater threat to Europe than to China. Germany, in particular, faces acute challenges, as soaring energy costs after the Ukraine war have crippled its energy-intensive industries.
It seems they are abstracting themselves out of existence and basically out of the 'great shame'. Hopefully that doesn't do for the rest of us........Typhoon wrote:What a first world war, followed by crippling terms of surrender, followed by the great depression and hyperinflation, followed by national socialism, followed by a second a second world war, and finally followed by about fifty-five years of partition and occupation could not do to Germany, Germany has done to itself within a generation.
Miss_faucie_fishtits wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024 01:02Or a theme park....'>.......Typhoon wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024 20:33Most of W Europe is at risk of turning into a museum.Miss_faucie_fishtits wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024 01:43
https://asiatimes.com/2024/11/germany-i ... d-economy/
Very good.Auto-flagellation over past history, some real, mostly imagined, seems to be a widespread Western phenomenon.It seems they are abstracting themselves out of existence and basically out of the 'great shame'. Hopefully that doesn't do for the rest of us........Typhoon wrote:What a first world war, followed by crippling terms of surrender, followed by the great depression and hyperinflation, followed by national socialism, followed by a second a second world war, and finally followed by about fifty-five years of partition and occupation could not do to Germany, Germany has done to itself within a generation.
Germany's ongoing deindustrialisation is no accident; key Green intellectuals have demanded precisely this for decades, and now the Greens are in government and they are getting what they want.
"You hold the door open longer than seven seconds und you vill run ze generator for five minutes".....Doc wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024 16:42OK now I get it.
Typhoon wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024 20:35
Auto-flagellation over past history, some real, mostly imagined, seems to be a widespread Western phenomenon.It seems they are abstracting themselves out of existence and basically out of the 'great shame'. Hopefully that doesn't do for the rest of us........Typhoon wrote:What a first world war, followed by crippling terms of surrender, followed by the great depression and hyperinflation, followed by national socialism, followed by a second a second world war, and finally followed by about fifty-five years of partition and occupation could not do to Germany, Germany has done to itself within a generation.
Or as socialists like to say "No Men, No problem(s)"
As for the Germans, they have a long history of subscribing to extreme beliefs.
The current ones:
eugyppius: a plague chronicle | In which a leading Green intellectual demands wide-scale deindustrialisation, permanent rationing, the prohibition of all new construction and the end of the banking system – all to save the climate
Germany's ongoing deindustrialisation is no accident; key Green intellectuals have demanded precisely this for decades, and now the Greens are in government and they are getting what they want.
Just over an hour ago, an anti-migration resolution proposed by the centre-right CDU passed the Bundestag with the support of Alternative für Deutschland. The vote was 348 in favour and 345 against, with 10 abstentions.
The cordon sanitaire – on life support since Sunday – came down for the very first time. It was an epochal moment. Although the resolution itself is a non-binding measure, the centre-right CDU and CSU have achieved a parliamentary outcome with AfD votes, and that has never happened before. As Green Party Chancellor candidate Robert Habeck said in his speech today, “If you vote with the AfD on this very important issue, on what issue won’t you vote with the AfD?” That is the crux of the matter. This vote suggests that the Influx Limitation Act, up for a vote on Friday, will also pass the Bundestag (if not the Bundesrat), once again with a majority made by the AfD. If we are lucky the cordon sanitaire will come down not once, but twice in the same week.
After today’s vote, the left side of parliament broke out in jeering and booing; SPD representatives became particularly hysterical after their leader, Rolf Mützenich, lamented that the Union had “abandoned the political middle.” That is good. The left have become just a little less powerful, and the events set in motion this afternoon threaten to marginalise them ever further in the years to come.
There will of course be no coalition between the CDU and the populist opposition after this election. The present CDU leadership, including their Chancellor candidate Friedrich Merz, are committed enemies of the AfD, however happy they may be to cast themselves as anti-migration hardliners. It is even possible that the CDU throw their weight behind schemes to ban the AfD after the elections in an effort to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Other things are possible too, however: After today, it will become very hard indeed for CDU politicians to explain to their voters why they cannot use AfD votes for anything at all. The possibility will haunt any future coalition with the left. The Greens and the SPD will continue to freak out, and if they freak out enough, one or both of them might end up outright refusing to govern with the Union parties. The SPD have already demanded that Merz reverse his course on migration if he views them as a potential partner. If that happens, the cordon sanitaire might not just come down – it might be buried for good.
Ursula von der Leyen wants Europe to raise $800 billion to defend Ukraine Though several EU members are objecting. Most notable Italy and Poland. If they go to war with Russia Trump will almost certainly pull out of NATO. I would be very disappointed if he did not.I have been against the US being in NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union I have felt that the various three letter agencies of the US government really missed the Soviet Union and wished to recreate that world in some fashion. If not then they would not have a reason to exist.
In fact two years after the fall of the Soviet Union Islamic terrorists that were seemingly led by a member of the Egyptian spy agency working for the FBI tried to blow up the World trade center. The plan was build the truck bomb, and before it was in position under the WTC swap out the explosives with inert material. Somehow the FBI forgot to swap out the explosives. Though you would think arresting the terrorists with a Truck bomb just outside of NYC would have been enough to put them in jail for life. Then fast forward to 911 The CIA was aware of an Islamist plot to fly commercial airliners into buildings But they forgot to tell anyone. So wars start Trillions are spent to fight forever wars and suddenly the Pentagon can no longer account, in it annual audit, for how all that money was spent....That was after the Chinese started getting mining contracts in Greenland.the western world of the post ww2 era is now gone, NATO is gone.
5 eyes is up for discussion - we either kick canada and new zealand out or we kick america out.
Trump is threatning to take greenland and you accuse the Euros of bluster.
shit has gotten interesting, and one things for certain, their isnt a west anymore, their are no allies anymore.
new arrangements will need to be made, and I suspect the USA is going to end up being treated like China or Russia.
its probably a good thing for everyone.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -as-unevenNapLajoieOnSteroids wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025 00:48 What ally?
France has been an ally. Australia is an ally. Japan is an ally. Heck, Mexico is an ally.
Especially Europe as I am sure the CCP will have all kinds of Belt and Road projects to bring Europe out of poverty. Probably even help Europe set up concentration camps for people making mean tweets.
Are you surprised that Trump wants Japan to have an official military again and drop the pretense of the *not-quite-military force according to treaties & agreements*?noddy wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025 09:50https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -as-unevenNapLajoieOnSteroids wrote: ↑06 Mar 2025 00:48 What ally?
France has been an ally. Australia is an ally. Japan is an ally. Heck, Mexico is an ally.
The real show:NapLajoieOnSteroids wrote: ↑08 Mar 2025 03:11 I did not read the bloomberg article with its cookie policy
but I did watch the clip where his off the cuff remark start with praising how great Japan is and how wonderful the Japanese are.
China's Population Plunge: Merger Mystery Unfolds?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics ... e-reports/noddy wrote: ↑09 Mar 2025 03:53 you have almost worked it out.
China isnt attacking anyone , its strutting its stuff the way America does, cruising battleships past smaller countries that cant do anything about it, showing them who is the real big dick in the region.
Why is this happening ? Its because their is no west anymore, so they dont have to fear retaliation from the USA or Europe about doing this kind of thing - the west has been on deaths door for a while, the Ukrainian thing exposed its frailty and now Trump has started burying the coffin.
The only global leaders who are threatning western countries with aggression are Trump (Canada, Denmark) and Putin (Western Europe) , the only countries which feel safer from a Trump presidency are Russia and Israel.
Everyone else is busy recalibrating away from America as fast as they possibly can - its going to be interesting.
You wanted America first, America alone, you have it. be happy.