Because they don't believe in it at all. Democrats don't give two rats about black people.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Mr. Perfect wrote:.
obama was President for 8 years and the Atlantic didn't breath a word about reparations, neither did any Democrat including obama.
Do you know why.
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NO, why ?
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Censorship isn't necessary
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Mr. Perfect wrote:Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Mr. Perfect wrote:.
obama was President for 8 years and the Atlantic didn't breath a word about reparations, neither did any Democrat including obama.
Do you know why.
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NO, why ?
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Because they don't believe in it at all.
Democrats don't give two rats about black people.
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Seconded .. agree
What about Republicans ?
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Not to mention we elected Obama It can even more people have died because of that then died in the civil war.
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Nice one-liner
True
Iranians, Shah, even Khomeini, always liked the Republicans .. Nixon, RR, Bush .. have not read a single bad comment by mad mullahs about Donald (yet).
Dems, Bill & Hillary, fake to the bone, slimy .. she still wouldn't let go arguing Putin voted her out of presidency , didn't get this election was "anybody but Hillary".
Bill, president for 8 yrs, suddenly come out he still member of "no black" golf club .. daughter, positioned head of non profit Clinton BS, $ 1 m salary, coming from Saudi Sheikhs .. At least Ivanka, Jared in bed with Chinese, but Sheiks ! ! ! Yaaaak
Reps upfront, you c what u get.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:We freed the slaves in the Civil War.
Nice one-liner
True
Iranians, Shah, even Khomeini, always liked the Republicans .. Nixon, RR, Bush .. have not read a single bad comment by mad mullahs about Donald (yet).
Dems, Bill & Hillary, fake to the bone, slimy .. she still wouldn't let go arguing Putin voted her out of presidency , didn't get this election was "anybody but Hillary".
Bill, president for 8 yrs, suddenly come out he still member of "no black" golf club .. daughter, positioned head of non profit Clinton BS, $ 1 m salary, coming from Saudi Sheikhs .. At least Ivanka, Jared in bed with Chinese, but Sheiks ! ! ! Yaaaak
Reps upfront, you c what u get.
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if paying reparations for bad things that happened centuries ago becomes a thing then who ever made that decision is going to get a shock good and hard about what comes out of the woodwork.
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Germans still milked by Mosche .. poor Angela
This a business for Mosche, has always been ..
noddy, you seem thinkin killing millions, beheading millions, pickling Chinese alive, forcing Opium for Gold on Chinese (when (Boxer) revolting beheading them in public), and, UPs, sorry .. good enough
Uou no foolin Ahmadinejat
huh ?
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Claiming that those who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are victims who should be compensated, and others who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are guilty and should be punished is a lawyer's union dream come true.noddy wrote:if paying reparations for bad things that happened centuries ago becomes a thing then who ever made that decision is going to get a shock good and hard about what comes out of the woodwork.
Big Brother can mandate armies of minions to perform DNA testing and research geneology to determine when one's ancestors arrived in the US.
Big Data gains power, number crunching, "scientists" using statistics to generate computer models, human registry like breeds of cattle, armies of brown shirted minions searching for real or imagined micro-aggressions, coyotes smuggling people out of the US, full employment, equality and tranquility at last...... where is the downside?
Or the simple version of just establishing a human skin grayscale, and punishing or rewarding based on your genetic paint chip.
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searching for my Star Trek universal language decoder that i have not seen in the last 50 years......noddy wrote:Germans still milked by Mosche .. poor Angela
This a business for Mosche, has always been ..
noddy, you seem thinkin killing millions, beheading millions, pickling Chinese alive, forcing Opium for Gold on Chinese (when (Boxer) revolting beheading them in public), and, UPs, sorry .. good enough
Uou no foolin Ahmadinejat
huh ?
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Done regularly in the US when establishing native American tribal status rolls.Simple Minded wrote:Claiming that those who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are victims who should be compensated, and others who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are guilty and should be punished is a lawyer's union dream come true.noddy wrote:if paying reparations for bad things that happened centuries ago becomes a thing then who ever made that decision is going to get a shock good and hard about what comes out of the woodwork.
Big Brother can mandate armies of minions to perform DNA testing and research geneology to determine when one's ancestors arrived in the US.
Big Data gains power, number crunching, "scientists" using statistics to generate computer models, human registry like breeds of cattle, armies of brown shirted minions searching for real or imagined micro-aggressions, coyotes smuggling people out of the US, full employment, equality and tranquility at last...... where is the downside?
Or the simple version of just establishing a human skin grayscale, and punishing or rewarding based on your genetic paint chip.
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done by whom? With the intended goal I assume of establishing legitimacy of claim? Fascinating.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Done regularly in the US when establishing native American tribal status rolls.Simple Minded wrote:Claiming that those who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are victims who should be compensated, and others who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are guilty and should be punished is a lawyer's union dream come true.noddy wrote:if paying reparations for bad things that happened centuries ago becomes a thing then who ever made that decision is going to get a shock good and hard about what comes out of the woodwork.
Big Brother can mandate armies of minions to perform DNA testing and research geneology to determine when one's ancestors arrived in the US.
Big Data gains power, number crunching, "scientists" using statistics to generate computer models, human registry like breeds of cattle, armies of brown shirted minions searching for real or imagined micro-aggressions, coyotes smuggling people out of the US, full employment, equality and tranquility at last...... where is the downside?
Or the simple version of just establishing a human skin grayscale, and punishing or rewarding based on your genetic paint chip.
Me thinks those who spend their present obsessed with living in the past ain't got much of a future.
fascinating concept, tax rates determined by the deeds of your ancestors prior to your birth.
Like a religion created by lawyers.
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You folks not sure understand the implication of your view ? ? ?
If nations could do all kinds of genocide, crimes against humanity, plunder, murder, wipe out millions, destroy nations and and and .. AND .. after one generation put your "DICK" on the table and say, "bad luck guys and now f*ck off" .. if that becomes norm, you can imagine what will follow
Well, understand, Spaniards now can be very sorry and ask for forgiveness and repent for wiping out South American natives, shipping all that Gold from South America to Spain, many Spanish ships still @ bottom of Atlantic with Gold bounty .. OK , we can talk what Spaniard owe to South American natives .. or .. noddy .. what the Brits owe to Australian natives.
But, folks, you still at it .. you still killing millions and millions for other peoples assets (what else you in ME for ? ?) .. British May just said Britain would use Nulcear weapon FIRST if British interest in danger .. she would not dare to use it against Putin, unless wanting UK evaporate, but, what about against our beloved Persia .. Brits taking Kuwait and Arab oil without paying let alone metering.
Brits basically at this game since 300 yrs ..
Fortunately, Lion not lion used 2B, nor sheep anymore sheep used 2B
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You folks not sure understand the implication of your view ? ? ?
If nations could do all kinds of genocide, crimes against humanity, plunder, murder, wipe out millions, destroy nations and and and .. AND .. after one generation put your "DICK" on the table and say, "bad luck guys and now f*ck off" .. if that becomes norm, you can imagine what will follow
Well, understand, Spaniards now can be very sorry and ask for forgiveness and repent for wiping out South American natives, shipping all that Gold from South America to Spain, many Spanish ships still @ bottom of Atlantic with Gold bounty .. OK , we can talk what Spaniard owe to South American natives .. or .. noddy .. what the Brits owe to Australian natives.
But, folks, you still at it .. you still killing millions and millions for other peoples assets (what else you in ME for ? ?) .. British May just said Britain would use Nulcear weapon FIRST if British interest in danger .. she would not dare to use it against Putin, unless wanting UK evaporate, but, what about against our beloved Persia .. Brits taking Kuwait and Arab oil without paying let alone metering.
Brits basically at this game since 300 yrs ..
Fortunately, Lion not lion used 2B, nor sheep anymore sheep used 2B
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nope.
first generation sure, second generation maybe. after that, no.
if a family is doing badly then social security should help them not because they have one of the approved bad histories but because they need help - lots of families have horror stories in their history and its a waste of everyones time trying to organise those in some sort of race to the bottom of reparations requirement. the world is full of horror stories.
australia was built off white slavery using poor irish,scotts and englanders (convicts) so this approach would mean the native americans could sue the african slaves for any murders or crimes committed whilst being under the control of the british lords and merchants haha.
all that bad history from the spanish or the british happened many centuries ago from the ruling class and it would be hard to isolate the exact bloodlines which came from noble or merchants, its just a mess of racial prejudices.
if being paler in skin is all thats required to demand reparations, then those doing the demanding can go pleasure themselves with chainsaws up the rectum
if they are blaming their failings on something that happened to their ancestors, noone can help them, they are self defeating and guaranteed of bad outcomes, everytime.
in my cultural upbringing their is no scope for blaming anything on what happened to previous generations, look forwards not backwards, thats a big part of why some folks recovered from colonialism and some didnt.
first generation sure, second generation maybe. after that, no.
if a family is doing badly then social security should help them not because they have one of the approved bad histories but because they need help - lots of families have horror stories in their history and its a waste of everyones time trying to organise those in some sort of race to the bottom of reparations requirement. the world is full of horror stories.
australia was built off white slavery using poor irish,scotts and englanders (convicts) so this approach would mean the native americans could sue the african slaves for any murders or crimes committed whilst being under the control of the british lords and merchants haha.
all that bad history from the spanish or the british happened many centuries ago from the ruling class and it would be hard to isolate the exact bloodlines which came from noble or merchants, its just a mess of racial prejudices.
if being paler in skin is all thats required to demand reparations, then those doing the demanding can go pleasure themselves with chainsaws up the rectum
if they are blaming their failings on something that happened to their ancestors, noone can help them, they are self defeating and guaranteed of bad outcomes, everytime.
in my cultural upbringing their is no scope for blaming anything on what happened to previous generations, look forwards not backwards, thats a big part of why some folks recovered from colonialism and some didnt.
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It's not a real issue. Nothing will be done about it one way or another.
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Personally I think that Manhattan Island should be given back to native Americans and California should be given back to Mexico
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Unlike natives who police their genealogy rolls aggressively*, any money will quickly become a transfer to anyone of African descent like we've seen in education scams.
So more money for middle class and up African descending foreigners.
And then after that, we'll have to pay for Mexicans who are suffering generational spanning PTSD from losing a war in the 1840s.
And then the Chinese. And you know the Irish will get in on it. I'm mean, half-of-'em got off the boat during the 1860s and got blow'd up on some battle field or another.
So more money for middle class and up African descending foreigners.
And then after that, we'll have to pay for Mexicans who are suffering generational spanning PTSD from losing a war in the 1840s.
And then the Chinese. And you know the Irish will get in on it. I'm mean, half-of-'em got off the boat during the 1860s and got blow'd up on some battle field or another.
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Yep. It is just one of those meme's the Left Preaching Right Practicing minions like to bleet. The desire to be judged based on one's intentions, not one's behavior..... Like a Kennedy saying that "the rich" should pay their fair share. Or those with armed security talking about the need for more gun laws.Mr. Perfect wrote:It's not a real issue. Nothing will be done about it one way or another.
Nothing at all stopping those who feel guilt due to bad behavior on the part of their ancestors, from opening up their wallets and donating generously to the descendants of those their ancestors abused.
Reparations is a great companion issue to the open borders issue. It's been months, and not a single open border advocate at OTNOT has posted any pictures of all the refugees living in their house.
Modesty or bigotry......
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Yeah Bro, now yer talking. properly managed, by members of my tribe of course, this could lead to utopia and full employment.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:Unlike natives who police their genealogy rolls aggressively*, any money will quickly become a transfer to anyone of African descent like we've seen in education scams.
So more money for middle class and up African descending foreigners.
And then after that, we'll have to pay for Mexicans who are suffering generational spanning PTSD from losing a war in the 1840s.
And then the Chinese. And you know the Irish will get in on it. I'm mean, half-of-'em got off the boat during the 1860s and got blow'd up on some battle field or another.
Lets start with us simple minded types who have been victimized for eons by you smarter people using big words. Ka-Ching!
Ugly women victimized by pretty women. $
Little titted women victimized by big titted women and shallow men. $
Tall people should make restitutions to short people. $
Women with tight butts should payoff women with flabby asses. $
I get to measure the women with big tits and tight asses, you can measure the little teets and flabby asses. Lets assume at the moment, the AGW measuring equipment and calibration standards will apply.
And since "a white person can't possibly know what it is like to be black in America," only the white committee can determine whiteness and only the black committee can determine blackness.
still looking for the downside......
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+1Simple Minded wrote: . . .
Me thinks those who spend their present obsessed with living in the past ain't got much of a future.
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Quite.
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Not tax rates, but distribution of assets. The big asset is typically casino revenue which is apportioned between tribal members. If %blood is too low one does not get a check. Native American reservations are essentially independent governments.Simple Minded wrote:done by whom? With the intended goal I assume of establishing legitimacy of claim? Fascinating.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Done regularly in the US when establishing native American tribal status rolls.Simple Minded wrote:Claiming that those who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are victims who should be compensated, and others who were not alive at the time of the transgressions are guilty and should be punished is a lawyer's union dream come true.noddy wrote:if paying reparations for bad things that happened centuries ago becomes a thing then who ever made that decision is going to get a shock good and hard about what comes out of the woodwork.
Big Brother can mandate armies of minions to perform DNA testing and research geneology to determine when one's ancestors arrived in the US.
Big Data gains power, number crunching, "scientists" using statistics to generate computer models, human registry like breeds of cattle, armies of brown shirted minions searching for real or imagined micro-aggressions, coyotes smuggling people out of the US, full employment, equality and tranquility at last...... where is the downside?
Or the simple version of just establishing a human skin grayscale, and punishing or rewarding based on your genetic paint chip.
Me thinks those who spend their present obsessed with living in the past ain't got much of a future.
fascinating concept, tax rates determined by the deeds of your ancestors prior to your birth.
Like a religion created by lawyers.
“Christ has no body now but yours. Yours are the eyes through which he looks with compassion on this world. Yours are the feet with which he walks among His people to do good. Yours are the hands through which he blesses His creation.”
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This. The remaining natives on reservations run independent governments for independent nations, even if it is largely a formality in most respects.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Native American reservations are essentially independent governments.
African-Americans do not run independent gov'ts within the borders of the US, however poorly they've been treated.
And these arguments for reparations are just backdoor arguments for the illegitimacy of the US gov't and its institutions that do not merit consideration.
Calls for a reorganization for distributive justice shouldn't be a foot in the door to damage the order of the US, but here we are. And its a dangerous game to encourage black separatist movements (as we've been doing since the 60s) just so the left can undermine our institutions with extra-legislative bodies they deem "necessary" because of all past sins, real, imagined or perceived.