coupla points
noddy wrote:
this has become a god of the gaps argument, you have shifted from dinosaurs turning into chickens and moved to the weakest part of the evolution story, the first DNA.
No, I'm not arguing for a God or a gap. I'm pointing out an impossibility.
using complexity as an argument doesnt really work, it creates the false problem of something needing to start at full complexity rather than getting more complex over time.
No. Key fobs do not spontaneously generate, neither does information spontaneously generate on blank paper. It simply doesn't happen. No precursor to DNA spontaneously generates, in fact there are no know precursors to DNA. It is complex beyone anyone's ability to comprehend. And Dawkins/Harris/Tyson believe it spontaneously generates. It doesn't.
Also, the argument, or observation more likely, is not complexity, but creating information. DNA is loaded with more information than anything known to man, yet information has never been observed to spontaneously generate is not known to be possible.
evolution is only a religion to the scary people who are trying to turn science into a religion, science doesnt have belief like religion does, its just is the best explanation we currently have using the facts we currently have.
It's near impossible these days to find a scientist who is like this. Near impossible.
i personally will not lose any sleep if science comes up with a better story than evolution, the origins of life are not vital day to day information.
this is why religious people can claim mystical sky gods did it, however that explanation is lacking in all the facts, not just some of them.
Not what I'm getting at. What I'm getting at is the spontaneous generation of DNA or a cell is as fantastical as unicorns and leprechauns, and people with a straight face will tell me it's science. It doesn't happen and didn't happen.
My point is two fold, and simple, and straightforward.
1. Is there any evidence anywhere that DNA, which is orders of magnitude more complex than an operating system, spontaneously and randomly generates. My research is that there is
no evidence whatsoever.
2. If there is no evidence whatsoever, then believing in that thing is FAITH, the same faith children have in the tooth fairy. As such nobody who believes in such a fairy tale can point fingers at anyone else over their religions.
This is NOT a process of elimination argument. Commonly you will see people say there is only creationism or evolution and if I disprove one then it proves the other. This is not true. Any theory has to be proven on it's own merits. As such, evolution of life from the inanimate currently requires faith and has no evidence to rely on.