Turning Point USA

[Parodite]

Me thinks he is right. Follow the money, follow the power.

Just one note of worry. Personally, the moment some suggestion of a grand conspiracy is expressed - in this case that there is a cabal of elitist political+corporate individuals and interest groups that conspire to keep the plebs divided and hating each other - generates a big chunck of salt on my back. Sort of a new Satan conspiracy. On purpose engineered by people who profit of division?

According to Dr. Phil, conspiracy thinking is always a natural part of any religious or ideological narrative. Beit a negative-evil or a positive-redemptive one. Pain versus pleasure. Good versus evil. Darkness versus the Light. Life versus Death in short. In a landscape where you can expect the unexpected, predators lurking in shadows. Coping with uncertainty and the certainty of death at the end of every road. That is a huge challenge to the human conscious mind. Akin torture.

Dottore Phil claims that there is no conspiracy going on at all. Just individuals following the track to more money and power for themselves. We are all wired to be concerned first of all with our own well being and survival. Not because of some ideology or religion says-so; when somebody else is hungry or in phydical pain we can empathise, but only when it happens to ourselves there is real pain. Or real pleasure and happiness for that matter.

To feel for others and empathise also has selfish origins; pay attention to the people you really care about. You do need them to survive and do everything your biology sets you up to do. These in-built, automated and instinctual drives are the ones that "conspire" and pull most of all strings everywhere. The rest is just dressing, story telling, marketing, wishful thinking or fear mongering.

[Nonc Hilaire]

I never listened to Kirk. I pegged him as “apologist not intellectual” a long time ago.

[Doc]

I never listened to Kirk. I pegged him as “apologist not intellectual” a long time ago.

If you never listened to him how did you know?

[Doc]

Me thinks he is right. Follow the money, follow the power.

Just one note of worry. Personally, the moment some suggestion of a grand conspiracy is expressed - in this case that there is a cabal of elitist political+corporate individuals and interest groups that conspire to keep the plebs divided and hating each other - generates a big chunck of salt on my back. Sort of a new Satan conspiracy. On purpose engineered by people who profit of division?

According to Dr. Phil, conspiracy thinking is always a natural part of any religious or ideological narrative. Beit a negative-evil or a positive-redemptive one. Pain versus pleasure. Good versus evil. Darkness versus the Light. Life versus Death in short. In a landscape where you can expect the unexpected, predators lurking in shadows. Coping with uncertainty and the certainty of death at the end of every road. That is a huge challenge to the human conscious mind. Akin torture.

Dottore Phil claims that there is no conspiracy going on at all. Just individuals following the track to more money and power for themselves. We are all wired to be concerned first of all with our own well being and survival. Not because of some ideology or religion says-so; when somebody else is hungry or in phydical pain we can empathise, but only when it happens to ourselves there is real pain. Or real pleasure and happiness for that matter.

To feel for others and empathise also has selfish origins; pay attention to the people you really care about. You do need them to survive and do everything your biology sets you up to do. These in-built, automated and instinctual drives are the ones that "conspire" and pull most of all strings everywhere. The rest is just dressing, story telling, marketing, wishful thinking or fear mongering.

This is the turning point for the USA. The left is currently self dehumanizing. Even going so far as claiming, at least in one case I saw, that empathy is akin to evil. The non loony left is now running away from the democrat party. Trump is going to destroy the Democrats, the MSM, the extremist. violent left, and the billionaire globalist's that are supporting them with laundered money from the US government. Charlie Kirk's martyrdom has given him all the power he needs.



The Left has no one Left

[Parodite]

Will be interesting to see if the midterms show any shift.

God GPT has a little caveat:

Many well-meaning people think the solution is to debate the “gullible” or “brainwashed” in public forums. They imagine that a barrage of facts will pry open minds. But facts don’t cure pain. Arguments don’t erase trauma. Viral clips rarely shift anyone’s worldview; they just harden defenses.

If you encounter activist students, conspiracy believers, or anyone caught in a narrative, treat them as you would a friend in pain. Assume confusion or loneliness before assuming malice. Listen more than you lecture. Ask questions with curiosity rather than contempt. Show empathy without condescension. You’re not trying to score points — you’re trying to build trust, the only soil in which doubt can sprout.

Think like a mentor or counselor, not a gladiator chasing clicks. In short: don’t be Charlie Kirk. Be the calm, grounded adult in the room.

Now here the Kirk & Shapiro Inc. Conservative Stiffy Necks really have a serious blindspot in their self-awareness. Or maybe it is more organic, genetic even. There could be facts that don't care about their feelings either.

[Doc]

Will be interesting to see if the midterms show any shift.

God GPT has a little caveat:

Many well-meaning people think the solution is to debate the “gullible” or “brainwashed” in public forums. They imagine that a barrage of facts will pry open minds. But facts don’t cure pain. Arguments don’t erase trauma. Viral clips rarely shift anyone’s worldview; they just harden defenses.

If you encounter activist students, conspiracy believers, or anyone caught in a narrative, treat them as you would a friend in pain. Assume confusion or loneliness before assuming malice. Listen more than you lecture. Ask questions with curiosity rather than contempt. Show empathy without condescension. You’re not trying to score points — you’re trying to build trust, the only soil in which doubt can sprout.

Think like a mentor or counselor, not a gladiator chasing clicks. In short: don’t be Charlie Kirk. Be the calm, grounded adult in the room.

Now here the Kirk & Shapiro Inc. Conservative Stiffy Necks really have a serious blindspot in their self-awareness. Or maybe it is more organic, genetic even. There could be facts that don't care about their feelings either.

And you admittedly have not watched any of Charlie Kirk's videos ......

I am saying you claim that Kirk did not say intellectual things. An opinion you have taken from others not the original source. Charlie Kirk's philosophy of debate was that there are people he would never win over. They were never his audience However he would still debate with them and even thank them for expressing their ideas in conversation with him. His audience was those that stood and watched these debates. Charlie always said he was willing to change his mind when presented to more pertinent facts. And sometimes he did. But the real effect of his college debates was to show people of his audience that the left has no rational arguments. And that is how he convinced so many that they were on the wrong side of reality.

I remember watching the Ivy League pro Palestine protests. I think it was during the one at Columbia. The one wgere the Student activist would make arguments/demands would finish each point by saying "Take one step forward" I believe he did not even say "Everyone take one step forward" And the students behind him would all take one step forward. This is classic Fascism. The collection of small sticks bound together to become strong. They we not individuals they were a Fasci.

Benito Mussolini adopted the fasces as the central symbol for his political movement, founding the Fasci di Combattimento in 1919, which later became the National Fascist Party.
The symbol was used to evoke the power and grandeur of ancient Rome while emphasizing national unity and authoritarian control.
Mussolini's fascist regime in Italy, the first of its kind, gave the symbol its modern political connotation, leading to the term "fascism" being used to describe far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist ideologies characterized by dictatorial power, suppression of opposition, and totalitarian governance.

It is a failing mass movement that has eaten the Democrat and their MSM propaganda wing. They along with their military wings like Auntie Fa are now doomed to cease to exist as a credible mass movement. As it is impossible in a democracy to claim to be victims while at the same time calling for your political opposition to be murdered because they disagree with you. As if democracy only works when there is no opposition.

This is from two months ago:

Victor Davis Hanson: The Left’s Rage is a Symptom of a Movement in Decline

[Parodite]

Will be interesting to see if the midterms show any shift.

God GPT has a little caveat:

Many well-meaning people think the solution is to debate the “gullible” or “brainwashed” in public forums. They imagine that a barrage of facts will pry open minds. But facts don’t cure pain. Arguments don’t erase trauma. Viral clips rarely shift anyone’s worldview; they just harden defenses.

If you encounter activist students, conspiracy believers, or anyone caught in a narrative, treat them as you would a friend in pain. Assume confusion or loneliness before assuming malice. Listen more than you lecture. Ask questions with curiosity rather than contempt. Show empathy without condescension. You’re not trying to score points — you’re trying to build trust, the only soil in which doubt can sprout.

Think like a mentor or counselor, not a gladiator chasing clicks. In short: don’t be Charlie Kirk. Be the calm, grounded adult in the room.

Now here the Kirk & Shapiro Inc. Conservative Stiffy Necks really have a serious blindspot in their self-awareness. Or maybe it is more organic, genetic even. There could be facts that don't care about their feelings either.

And you admittedly have not watched any of Charlie Kirk's videos ......

I am saying you claim that Kirk did not say intellectual things. An opinion you have taken from others not the original source.

That was Nonc. I saw a number of his videos also interviews, but alas.

Charlie Kirk's philosophy of debate was that there are people he would never win over. They were never his audience However he would still debate with them and even thank them for expressing their ideas in conversation with him. His audience was those that stood and watched these debates.

Yes it looks like that. But it also supports my point. I don't mind if one decides to debate people to show others how stupid they are if the people you debate are sort of equals. But to debate confused, probably traumatised and brainwashed children I find off putting. These kids probably sense this: he uses them to show others how stupid tbey are., which is probably the reason they think of him as a bully.

Charlie always said he was willing to change his mind when presented to more pertinent facts. And sometimes he did. But the real effect of his college debates was to show people of his audience that the left has no rational arguments. And that is how he convinced so many that they were on the wrong side of reality.

I remember watching the Ivy League pro Palestine protests. I think it was during the one at Columbia. The one wgere the Student activist would make arguments/demands would finish each point by saying "Take one step forward" I believe he did not even say "Everyone take one step forward" And the students behind him would all take one step forward. This is classic Fascism. The collection of small sticks bound together to become strong. They we not individuals they were a Fasci.

Benito Mussolini adopted the fasces as the central symbol for his political movement, founding the Fasci di Combattimento in 1919, which later became the National Fascist Party.
The symbol was used to evoke the power and grandeur of ancient Rome while emphasizing national unity and authoritarian control.
Mussolini's fascist regime in Italy, the first of its kind, gave the symbol its modern political connotation, leading to the term "fascism" being used to describe far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist ideologies characterized by dictatorial power, suppression of opposition, and totalitarian governance.

It is a failing mass movement that has eaten the Democrat and their MSM propaganda wing. They along with their military wings like Auntie Fa are now doomed to cease to exist as a credible mass movement. As it is impossible in a democracy to claim to be victims while at the same time calling for your political opposition to be murdered because they disagree with you. As if democracy only works when there is no opposition.

This is from two months ago:

Victor Davis Hanson: The Left’s Rage is a Symptom of a Movement in Decline

Children, gullible youngsters who haven't seen much of the world yet are easy prey for propagandists always. I would call deze ideological predators child abusing foster parents.

[Nonc Hilaire]

Fasces do not represent strength in unity. Quite the opposite.

Every Roman legion carried a fascis lictorum to symbolize decimation. All who objected to Roman authority were to be beaten with rods and one out of 10 beheaded.

[Doc]

Fasces do not represent strength in unity. Quite the opposite.

Every Roman legion carried a fascis lictorum to symbolize decimation. All who objected to Roman authority were to be beaten with rods and one out of 10 beheaded.

The fascists used the fasces as a symbol of inclusive strength in numbers bound together .

The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State—a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values—interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.
— Doctrine of Fascism, 1935[3]

The Romans used it as a symbol of the state of citizens bound together to the state.

The fasces is an Italian symbol that had its origin in the Etruscan civilization and was passed on to ancient Rome, where it symbolized a Roman king's power to punish his subjects,[1] and later, a magistrate's power and jurisdiction.

[Doc]

And you admittedly have not watched any of Charlie Kirk's videos ......

I am saying you claim that Kirk did not say intellectual things. An opinion you have taken from others not the original source.

That was Nonc. I saw a number of his videos also interviews, but alas.

you are quite right - sorry.

Charlie Kirk's philosophy of debate was that there are people he would never win over. They were never his audience However he would still debate with them and even thank them for expressing their ideas in conversation with him. His audience was those that stood and watched these debates.

Yes it looks like that. But it also supports my point. I don't mind if one decides to debate people to show others how stupid they are if the people you debate are sort of equals. But to debate confused, probably traumatised and brainwashed children I find off putting. These kids probably sense this: he uses them to show others how stupid tbey are., which is probably the reason they think of him as a bully.

Charlie always said he was willing to change his mind when presented to more pertinent facts. And sometimes he did. But the real effect of his college debates was to show people of his audience that the left has no rational arguments. And that is how he convinced so many that they were on the wrong side of reality.

I remember watching the Ivy League pro Palestine protests. I think it was during the one at Columbia. The one wgere the Student activist would make arguments/demands would finish each point by saying "Take one step forward" I believe he did not even say "Everyone take one step forward" And the students behind him would all take one step forward. This is classic Fascism. The collection of small sticks bound together to become strong. They we not individuals they were a Fasci.
It is a failing mass movement that has eaten the Democrat and their MSM propaganda wing. They along with their military wings like Auntie Fa are now doomed to cease to exist as a credible mass movement. As it is impossible in a democracy to claim to be victims while at the same time calling for your political opposition to be murdered because they disagree with you. As if democracy only works when there is no opposition.

This is from two months ago:

Victor Davis Hanson: The Left’s Rage is a Symptom of a Movement in Decline

Children, gullible youngsters who haven't seen much of the world yet are easy prey for propagandists always. I would call deze ideological predators child abusing foster parents.

Indeed. But you are saying that no one over 25, or so, should teach college courses to students to young to even understand the concept free discussion of ideas? Or is there a credential of expertise or authority that should be required?


Charlie started on his path of searching for truth when he was 17. When he made his first appearance on national TV. He started TPUSA when he was 18 years old. He now has over 1700 videos on line. he died at 31 years of age. At what age do you think he should have stopped his campus events?

[Parodite]

The case can be made that people like Kirk — and especially Trump — by the nature of their personalities and the content of their ideas, evoke reactions in people that expose their character and way of thinking; TDS being the best example. It brings out into the daylight what was there all along, hiding in the dark.

This seems to be about more than just gullible youngsters captured by bollocks ideologies, the cynical business interests of clickbait media who “want to keep us all divided,” and oligarchical, globalizing forces.

The way I look at it, it all just shows what we all are: monkeys with often too much imagination. Trump is no less a monkey than Obama, and Kirk is no less a donkey than leftist youth activists. I see zero fundamental difference between an evangelical fanatic, an Islamic fundamentalist, or a “had enough” national populist who votes for Wilders here in the Netherlands and wants no more import of Islamic ideology into our society. They all just want to live in a society where people look more like themselves — with the same smell under their armpits. It gives enough mutual predictability to form a society — err, tribe.

It’s not even a “culture war” between Judeo-Christian values and whatever other ideologies or religions, or about “the best economic and political system.”

This all just seems to me like a recurring pattern in history, where systems and societies grow into empire-sized structures and then disintegrate again, downsizing into smaller units — because our tribal nature has needs and “opinions” already before we even learn to reflect on them. All through wars, power, revolutions, counter-revolutions, or whatever the tools of the day may be.

There is no stable or perfectly sized society: everything just grows and shrinks again. USA, Europe Inc., China Poo, BRIC, USSR 3.0, the Elite Glob Mob — whatever — are all competing to survive and be on top. Meanwhile, Jordan Peterson is desperately looking for a wholesome narrative that redeems the nasty aspects of reality — to no avail. Just chewing gum for some overly stimulated frontal lobes.

[Parodite]

Doc, whats your opinion about voices that talk about dividing up the country. As an alternative to old school civil war. One for the left of center democraps and their intolerant left activists, another for the center-right democrats, decent liberals, republicans, maga publicans and libertarians. Or is the One America One People One Dream too strong.

[Doc]

Doc, whats your opinion about voices that talk about dividing up the country. As an alternative to old school civil war. One for the left of center democraps and their intolerant left activists, another for the center-right democrats, decent liberals, republicans, maga publicans and libertarians. Or is the One America One People One Dream too strong.

Such leftist states will immediately become moral absolutist enemies, as their (the people that are financing them) point is total domination of not just the US, but the world. Obama once said exactly what he is about.


Don't get a job and raise a family and stay angry. But give your lives and become monks and nuns of the church of Socialism.

First the Democrats screeched "Donald Trump is a threat to democracy*#*$%!!"
Then they screeched for all to see: "This is what Democracy looks like $$&^# !!!"


Then when they realized that was a huge mistake they started screeching the shooter is right wing *#*$!!! . Without evidence. Ignoring absolutely clear evidence that he is main stream Democrat.



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... e-bluesky/
Nolte: 55% of Leftists Believe It’s Justifiable to Assassinate Trump Thanks to Apps Like BlueSky

They are now dead enders. Like drug addicts sleeping in the streets. I don't think it is necessary to do anything in general other than to exclude those with extremist violent tendencies from polite society and take some actions to prevent them from getting anywhere close to weapons of mass destruct. Like commercial size airplanes. Outside of that to hold those who have been financing this violence accountable.

SInce 2020 people have been running away from the democrat party. In the few since Charlie Kirk's political assassination they are running away.

There are two things I would say to people that want to stay registered as Democrat or to the left of that. "Fascists, Thank you for not dehumanizing yourself" and For those of you that are about to be absolutely crushed BY_THE_RULE_OF_LAW I salute you.

The only hope the left has left is if someone on the right, or pretending to be on the right, strikes back violently and kills some of them.

[Doc]

A couple more dots to connect.

Yesterday it came out in congress that the Biden FBI was spying on 83 of the top Republican organizations. But first some other dots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act

Smith–Mundt Act
The U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (Public Law 80-402), popularly called the Smith–Mundt Act, was first introduced by Congressman Karl E. Mundt (R-SD) in January 1945 in the 79th Congress. It was subsequently passed by the 80th Congress and signed into law by President Harry S. Truman on January 27, 1948.

The Act was developed to regulate broadcasting of programs for foreign audiences produced under the guidance of the State Department, and it prohibited domestic dissemination of materials produced by such programs as one of its provisions.[1] The original version of the Act was amended by the Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 under Barack Obama which allowed for materials produced by the State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) to be made available within the United States.[2][3]

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The second and third provisions were of greater interest to the Congress as they answered critical concerns about government engaging domestic audiences. Added to the Bloom Bill, the predecessor to the Smith–Mundt Act in June 1946 by Representative John M. Vorys (R-OH) "to remove the stigma of propaganda" and address the principal objections to the information activities the Congress intended to authorize. These provisions remain unamended and were the real prophylactic to address concerns the U.S. government would create Nazi-style propaganda or resurrect President Woodrow Wilson's CPI-style activities. The amendment said the information activities should only be conducted if needed to supplement international information dissemination of private agencies; that the State Department was not to acquire a monopoly of broadcasting or any other information medium; and that private sector leaders should be invited to review and advise the State Department in this work.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... ation-fbi/

Marxist LGBTQ Paramilitary Group in Utah Under Investigation by FBI Regarding Kirk Assassination as Group Leader’s Ties to State Department and United Nations are Revealed
by Cullen Linebarger Sep. 16, 2025 12:00 pm

Credit: @ArmedQueersSLC X
A group under investigation by the FBI for having potential foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk’s assassination has a leader with some damning ties to both the federal government and the United Nations.

As The Gateway Pundit’s Cassandra MacDonald previously reported, The investigation into the assassination of Kirk has expanded to scrutinize pro-trans online communities to figure out if they helped him with the shooting — or at least heard it was going to happen.

One of the groups is a Marxist paramilitary organization called Armed Queers of Salt Lake City, which took down its Instagram after Kirk was killed.

In a video that has since been scrubbed, the leaders of the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City brag about a trip to communist Cuba in May of 2025, where they trained with militant Marxists to stage a “revolution in America” when they returned home. The leaders they met with boasted about being labeled “terrorists” by the United States.

The group has openly coordinated with the Cuban government in various venues and events.

The ‘Armed Queers of Salt Lake City’ is a marxist paramilitary group being investigated by federal authorities in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s left-wing political assassination.

This radical group immediately deleted their social media in the aftermath of Charlie’s murder.… pic.twitter.com/8WjgMNxhMs

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 16, 2025


Now, Data Republican has uncovered some interesting ties between the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City’s primary leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, and various government entities.

Data Republican exposed that Fanaeian is an Iranian immigrant and self-identified communist who has been honored by the US State Department, United Nations, and her ties to State Department–affiliated NGO Utah Global Diplomacy.

MAJOR BREAKING: State Department & UN ties to Armed Queers SLC leader now confirmed

First, credit to @SKDoubleDub33 for the crucial tip, PLEASE follow, they’ll be doing a podcast on this soon.

Here’s what you need to know:

Armed Queers SLC is under investigation… pic.twitter.com/7P7yoAVN44

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


For example, Utah Global Diplomacy recognized Fanaeian as a recipient of the “7 for 17” Award for advancing the UN’s 17 Goals. Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), Utah Global Diplomacy partners with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives.

This means she was selected to help shape U.S. Foreign relations!

Fanaeian was selected as Utah Global Diplomacy’s first “7 for 17” Award Winner , honoring her work to advance UN’s 17 Sustainable Goals. I’m pulling together the exact nature of the work that she did for the UN. pic.twitter.com/PNgRC9azNI

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives.

In other words, she was selected to “help shape U.S. Foreign relations.” Their words, not mine. pic.twitter.com/60krjc4m0i

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Almost all of the money Utah Global Diplomacy receives comes from the government, meaning you have been funding her activities.

Utah Global Diplomacy reports receiving most of its income in government grants. pic.twitter.com/s38Uq6948n

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Perhaps fearing political blowback, Utah Global Diplomacy scrubbed all mentions of Fanaeian on its website.

This is what pops up when you search for her name in connection to Utah Global Diplomacy. All scrubbed. pic.twitter.com/5YCXJuKMe1

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Fanaeian was also a speaker at a UN event focused on LGBTQ+ nonprofits.

I find mention of Fanaeian on an UN website where she was a speaker at an affiliated event. Topic: LGBTQ+ Nonprofits. https://t.co/IPJKEUPlGl pic.twitter.com/Qt57L2BkdR

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Even more disturbingly, Fanaeian was honored as a Young Diplomat of Utah.

Fanaeian was honored as a “Young Diplomat of Utah.” pic.twitter.com/PGBeZvbRdD

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025


Data Republican is careful to note that there is no evidence the State Department was involved in the Kirk assassination but this evidence does prove Fanaeian was being groomed to potentially assume a prominent spot within the department.

None of this is to suggest that the State Department had any involvement in the assassination.

But this IS the kind of person who is picked from a young age on to staff the State Department. @EagleEdMartin FYI.

— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) September 16, 2025

USAID was probably covered by the Smith Mundt act as well, since it was technically part of the State Dept. Despite the claims of its independence from the executive branch.


'FBI targeted Charlie Kirk’s TPUSA…': Grassley drops 'Arctic Frost' bombshell at Kash Patel hearing

SO two more dots connected and another one hanging out there. With Watergate, the Nixon White tried to bug McGovern's campaign HQ. The Democrats bugged not only the entire Republican party but all organizations aligned with the Republican party. And they used tax payer money basically spread campaign propaganda with, "Nazi-Style". Like making arraignments for the assassination of the political opposition is also "Nazi-Style"

[Doc]

[Parodite]

Doc, whats your opinion about voices that talk about dividing up the country. As an alternative to old school civil war. One for the left of center democraps and their intolerant left activists, another for the center-right democrats, decent liberals, republicans, maga publicans and libertarians. Or is the One America One People One Dream too strong.

Such leftist states will immediately become moral absolutist enemies, as their (the people that are financing them) point is total domination of not just the US, but the world. Obama once said exactly what he is about.

I prefer to live in a country where most people agree on the basic rules of the game. Once that foundation no longer exists, if there develops a truly divided house, it is either time to move to another place / territory, or declare physical war. I have a rather short fuse when it comes to people stepping over a red line. Although the ideal of "not descending to that low level of your deranged enemy" sounds good, I simply have no patience for it. You kick me in the face for no reason and I loose a tooth while you clearly enjoy the effect, my instinct demands me to chop off your head. Naturally such a brawl would escalate very quickly and most likely quite some people die before a feud burns itself out. But you also have to do a calculation: if enough people that end up in a feud kill eachother quickly, all those occasional local self-annihilating bush fires also prevent huge systems to grow where in the end again there will be a feud, but then between huge globalistic monsters. Once they snap..world wars and what not.

The USA seems to have a chance to diffuse these feuds and esp the Big Feud, because still things get out in the open fast and are brutally contested. Maybe.

In Europe.. there is too much swamp and politically correct fog everywhere. Thick fog. Here the latest effort to dominate the continent is this technocratic, bureaucratic unelected EU Commissariat but its cracks are already emerging.

All the wannabe Dominators of the past had only temporal success in Europe. The Romans were succesful for a long time but then as always.. Empires do crumble. Hitler was sort of a stand up comedian: never before someone gathered so much power in such a short time, blitzkrieg after blitzkrieg conquering Europe as a whole and even half of Russia. But the Son of Heil was no more than a few years of tragic footnotes in history.

Matter of time the nucklehaed tribes here will be back in oldschool bloodshed business, with a fresh one to join the party: the Islamotribe with millions of loyal members.

Anyways...what I'm saying. It could still be a good idea to split the USA, maybe not yet.

[Doc]

Doc, whats your opinion about voices that talk about dividing up the country. As an alternative to old school civil war. One for the left of center democraps and their intolerant left activists, another for the center-right democrats, decent liberals, republicans, maga publicans and libertarians. Or is the One America One People One Dream too strong.

Such leftist states will immediately become moral absolutist enemies, as their (the people that are financing them) point is total domination of not just the US, but the world. Obama once said exactly what he is about.

I prefer to live in a country where most people agree on the basic rules of the game. Once that foundation no longer exists, if there develops a truly divided house, it is either time to move to another place / territory, or declare physical war. I have a rather short fuse when it comes to people stepping over a red line. Although the ideal of "not descending to that low level of your deranged enemy" sounds good, I simply have no patience for it. You kick me in the face for no reason and I loose a tooth while you clearly enjoy the effect, my instinct demands me to chop off your head. Naturally such a brawl would escalate very quickly and most likely quite some people die before a feud burns itself out. But you also have to do a calculation: if enough people that end up in a feud kill eachother quickly, all those occasional local self-annihilating bush fires also prevent huge systems to grow where in the end again there will be a feud, but then between huge globalistic monsters. Once they snap..world wars and what not.

The USA seems to have a chance to diffuse these feuds and esp the Big Feud, because still things get out in the open fast and are brutally contested. Maybe.

In Europe.. there is too much swamp and politically correct fog everywhere. Thick fog. Here the latest effort to dominate the continent is this technocratic, bureaucratic unelected EU Commissariat but its cracks are already emerging.

All the wannabe Dominators of the past had only temporal success in Europe. The Romans were succesful for a long time but then as always.. Empires do crumble. Hitler was sort of a stand up comedian: never before someone gathered so much power in such a short time, blitzkrieg after blitzkrieg conquering Europe as a whole and even half of Russia. But the Son of Heil was no more than a few years of tragic footnotes in history.

Matter of time the nucklehaed tribes here will be back in oldschool bloodshed business, with a fresh one to join the party: the Islamotribe with millions of loyal members.

Anyways...what I'm saying. It could still be a good idea to split the USA, maybe not yet.

IT is not so bad as it seems. 85% of Democrats blame the MSM for Charlie Kirk's death.



Those that would be violent need to be dealt with to the point they understand they are playing a losing hand. Those that are financing violence need to be held accountable. That includes the MSM. The guy from Rasmussen says other things that need to be addressed as well. However the big take away is the 90% starting point that agrees that the bought and paid for MSM is the problem. Everything on the path to fix this follows that first step.

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IT is not so bad as it seems. 85% of Democrats blame the MSM for Charlie Kirk's death.



Those that would be violent need to be dealt with to the point they understand they are playing a losing hand. Those that are financing violence need to be held accountable. That includes the MSM. The guy from Rasmussen says other things that need to be addressed as well. However the big take away is the 90% starting point that agrees that the bought and paid for MSM is the problem. Everything on the path to fix this follows that first step.

Good points. What saddens me most is when the remaining smart voices in our societies identify the deeper systemic causes that corrupt our politics — such as the power of donor classes over policymaking, i.e. the “one dollar, one vote” scandal — yet stop there. They acknowledge it’s a huge problem and then go silent.

They’ll describe the side effects of this corruption and point out how it feeds into socialist ideologies that wrongly blame capitalism, convincing many gullible young people that Marx was right. Yet they leave the elephant in the room untouched, as if it were a law of nature — a sad reality we simply have to live with.

The “chainsaw” needed to destroy this corrosive, toxic “one dollar, one vote” system once and for all isn’t at the top of anyone’s agenda. The people in your video recognize and acknowledge the problem, but then they stop there. Glenn Greenwald pays attention to it but then grows silent. Ben Shapiro — shredding paper aside — and Victor Davis Hanson may know about it, but when is it ever a central subject for them? Matt Taibbi, in my opinion the best of the best, also seems uninterested in pushing to fix it or in gathering the best minds and people in power to cut out that cancer.

Precious time is being wasted by the best thinkers dwelling on a plethora of symptoms rather than on the underlying systemic causes. “One dollar, one vote” and the power of the donor classes is only one design flaw — it’s a compound set of overlapping causes and effects. The repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act is another example. Culture wars can inflame a society only to the extent that basic, corrupting design flaws are allowed to grow unchecked.

Here in Europe the corrupting design flaws are also obvious and even more severe. But as said, the fog is so thick here I have zero hope sensible reforms will go into effect: it will be either old school tribal war, or just a sudden economic collapse dwarfing 2008 or even 1933.

For the USA I have a 1% of hope left, but - I see zero interest from anybody in fixing it, how to actually cure these corrupting diseases and design flaws that are killing healthy free market capitalism as we speak. But it least the USA is still alive and conscious.

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IT is not so bad as it seems. 85% of Democrats blame the MSM for Charlie Kirk's death.



Those that would be violent need to be dealt with to the point they understand they are playing a losing hand. Those that are financing violence need to be held accountable. That includes the MSM. The guy from Rasmussen says other things that need to be addressed as well. However the big take away is the 90% starting point that agrees that the bought and paid for MSM is the problem. Everything on the path to fix this follows that first step.

Good points. What saddens me most is when the remaining smart voices in our societies identify the deeper systemic causes that corrupt our politics — such as the power of donor classes over policymaking, i.e. the “one dollar, one vote” scandal — yet stop there. They acknowledge it’s a huge problem and then go silent.

They’ll describe the side effects of this corruption and point out how it feeds into socialist ideologies that wrongly blame capitalism, convincing many gullible young people that Marx was right. Yet they leave the elephant in the room untouched, as if it were a law of nature — a sad reality we simply have to live with.

The “chainsaw” needed to destroy this corrosive, toxic “one dollar, one vote” system once and for all isn’t at the top of anyone’s agenda. The people in your video recognize and acknowledge the problem, but then they stop there. Glenn Greenwald pays attention to it but then grows silent. Ben Shapiro — shredding paper aside — and Victor Davis Hanson may know about it, but when is it ever a central subject for them? Matt Taibbi, in my opinion the best of the best, also seems uninterested in pushing to fix it or in gathering the best minds and people in power to cut out that cancer.

Precious time is being wasted by the best thinkers dwelling on a plethora of symptoms rather than on the underlying systemic causes. “One dollar, one vote” and the power of the donor classes is only one design flaw — it’s a compound set of overlapping causes and effects. The repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act is another example. Culture wars can inflame a society only to the extent that basic, corrupting design flaws are allowed to grow unchecked.

Here in Europe the corrupting design flaws are also obvious and even more severe. But as said, the fog is so thick here I have zero hope sensible reforms will go into effect: it will be either old school tribal war, or just a sudden economic collapse dwarfing 2008 or even 1933.

For the USA I have a 1% of hope left, but - I see zero interest from anybody in fixing it, how to actually cure these corrupting diseases and design flaws that are killing healthy free market capitalism as we speak. But it least the USA is still alive and conscious.

In the US at least, the left has pretty much discredited itself to the point whoever is left in the left will be ignored for a very long time into th efuture. THere are other issues that need to be addressed. Like young people having no hope they will ever get ahead. Charlie Kirk's wife at his funeral said she fprgives his killer. Yet the left always seem to insis they are good people. I think their heads are about to explode.

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When Anti-Fascism Starts to Look… Fascist

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She is on spot, but stil misses the point. According to GodGPT:

The Case: Totalitarian Ideologies and the Biology of Herd Dynamics

1. The Core Thesis

Totalitarian ideologies — including secular political systems and universalist religions — are best understood not primarily as abstract metaphysical constructs but as cultural expressions of an ancient biological imperative: herd dynamics. At their root, they transform the group’s survival into the individual’s survival, creating a moral logic of “You safe, I safe.”

2. Herd Dynamics as Evolutionary Baseline

Safety in numbers. For social animals, group living reduces predation risk and increases access to resources. Evolution selected for individuals who synchronized their behavior with the group.

Conformity as survival. In small ancestral bands, deviating from group norms often meant ostracism or death. This selected for powerful drives toward imitation, conformity, and obedience to collective norms.

Shared threat detection. Emotional contagion, synchronized fear responses, and “follow the leader” instincts are all neurobiological mechanisms serving group cohesion.

3. Ideology as Cultural Superstructure on Biological Foundations

Metaphysics as group glue. When a religion or ideology claims universal truth (“This is the only way”), it provides not just meaning but an organizing principle that overrides individual autonomy.

Ritual and dogma as synchronizers. Regular rituals, canonical texts, and shared beliefs reduce behavioral variance, making the group more predictable and easier to mobilize.

Sacrifice of the individual. Totalitarian systems demand loyalty even to the point of self-harm, because survival of the group is perceived as synonymous with survival of the individual’s genes or identity.

4. The “You Safe, I Safe” Principle

Reciprocal security. Under herd dynamics, each member’s security depends on others maintaining the collective shield. Punishing dissenters or non-believers becomes a rational (if brutal) strategy.

Psychological comfort. Individuals feel less anxiety when their personal fate is merged with that of the group; metaphysical certainty substitutes for the uncertainty of autonomous decision-making.

Moral absolutism. If the group represents absolute truth or divine will, then defending it at all costs feels not only necessary but virtuous.

5. Why Totalitarianism Resurfaces Across Cultures

Recurrent attractor. Whenever societies experience instability, existential threat, or rapid change, the appeal of a unifying, totalizing ideology spikes.

Cultural selection. Movements that most effectively align individual interests with group interests tend to outcompete looser, more permissive systems under stress.

Religions and secular ideologies alike. Whether it is the Caliphate, the Third Reich, or a militant secular utopia, the same biological template is at work: bind individuals into a single moral organism.

6. Implications

Recognizing the template. Seeing totalitarian ideologies as herd dynamics in cultural dress allows us to anticipate their emergence.

Resilience of liberal systems. Liberal, pluralist societies try to decouple individual survival from group conformity — but must then compensate with strong institutions and rule of law to maintain cohesion.

Freedom as conscious override. Understanding our biological inheritance gives us a chance to design societies where group interests do not automatically trump individual dignity.

Conclusion

Totalitarian ideologies are not arbitrary mistakes of history; they are a predictable outgrowth of our evolutionary history as herd animals. By making the group’s survival synonymous with the individual’s (“You safe, I safe”), they harness deep biological drives for conformity and self-sacrifice. Only by acknowledging and managing this underlying template can societies preserve individual freedom without collapsing into chaos or coercion.

Things get complicated and interesting, when a political ideology or universalist religion puts the responsibities and rights of the individual first.

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She is on spot, but stil misses the point. According to GodGPT:

The Case: Totalitarian Ideologies and the Biology of Herd Dynamics

1. The Core Thesis

Totalitarian ideologies — including secular political systems and universalist religions — are best understood not primarily as abstract metaphysical constructs but as cultural expressions of an ancient biological imperative: herd dynamics. At their root, they transform the group’s survival into the individual’s survival, creating a moral logic of “You safe, I safe.”

2. Herd Dynamics as Evolutionary Baseline

Safety in numbers. For social animals, group living reduces predation risk and increases access to resources. Evolution selected for individuals who synchronized their behavior with the group.

Conformity as survival. In small ancestral bands, deviating from group norms often meant ostracism or death. This selected for powerful drives toward imitation, conformity, and obedience to collective norms.

Shared threat detection. Emotional contagion, synchronized fear responses, and “follow the leader” instincts are all neurobiological mechanisms serving group cohesion.

3. Ideology as Cultural Superstructure on Biological Foundations

Metaphysics as group glue. When a religion or ideology claims universal truth (“This is the only way”), it provides not just meaning but an organizing principle that overrides individual autonomy.

Ritual and dogma as synchronizers. Regular rituals, canonical texts, and shared beliefs reduce behavioral variance, making the group more predictable and easier to mobilize.

Sacrifice of the individual. Totalitarian systems demand loyalty even to the point of self-harm, because survival of the group is perceived as synonymous with survival of the individual’s genes or identity.

4. The “You Safe, I Safe” Principle

Reciprocal security. Under herd dynamics, each member’s security depends on others maintaining the collective shield. Punishing dissenters or non-believers becomes a rational (if brutal) strategy.

Psychological comfort. Individuals feel less anxiety when their personal fate is merged with that of the group; metaphysical certainty substitutes for the uncertainty of autonomous decision-making.

Moral absolutism. If the group represents absolute truth or divine will, then defending it at all costs feels not only necessary but virtuous.

5. Why Totalitarianism Resurfaces Across Cultures

Recurrent attractor. Whenever societies experience instability, existential threat, or rapid change, the appeal of a unifying, totalizing ideology spikes.

Cultural selection. Movements that most effectively align individual interests with group interests tend to outcompete looser, more permissive systems under stress.

Religions and secular ideologies alike. Whether it is the Caliphate, the Third Reich, or a militant secular utopia, the same biological template is at work: bind individuals into a single moral organism.

6. Implications

Recognizing the template. Seeing totalitarian ideologies as herd dynamics in cultural dress allows us to anticipate their emergence.

Resilience of liberal systems. Liberal, pluralist societies try to decouple individual survival from group conformity — but must then compensate with strong institutions and rule of law to maintain cohesion.

Freedom as conscious override. Understanding our biological inheritance gives us a chance to design societies where group interests do not automatically trump individual dignity.

Conclusion

Totalitarian ideologies are not arbitrary mistakes of history; they are a predictable outgrowth of our evolutionary history as herd animals. By making the group’s survival synonymous with the individual’s (“You safe, I safe”), they harness deep biological drives for conformity and self-sacrifice. Only by acknowledging and managing this underlying template can societies preserve individual freedom without collapsing into chaos or coercion.

Things get complicated and interesting, when a political ideology or universalist religion puts the responsibities and rights of the individual first.

I think there is a more basic explanation for the above. Our brains work by taking what our senses tell them and making up stories to explain the inputs. Rationalizations that tend to reinforced each other in our brains even if they are somewhat incompatible. As our brains do not have perfect memory. The same thing happens with rationalizations among groups of people. Look at the UFO sightings in New Jersey last year. It got to th e point that people were shooting at small airplanes sure that they were alien space craft. Even though looking a little closer they could have seen they were small airplanes. But they don't look closer because they already had a rational explanation. This is why people "know what they know". This is how cults work. It is also how radicalization works. If the situation is set up in a way that someone sees something is "true" with their own eyes then they "know what they know". Especially if it is something that makes them emotionally stressed. There are enough people in this world that understand this, that a lot of harm can be and is done. They set someone up by putting them into a situation where they feel threatened by someone or something then they earn their trust with fake empathy. That is how groups like Antifa pulled people into their group

I know a psycho analyst in Brazil that told me a story from when he was still a student. He was walking across a plaza and there was a disturbance. There was a man yelling and screaming and people around him were trying to calm his down. The psycho analyst realized that the man was afraid of all the snakes on the plaza that were actually not there. So he pretended to see the snakes as well. Telling the main to watch out there was one beside him and pretending to step on it. Then another and another. Once he convinced the man that he saw the snakes as well that he saw the same thing thus earning his trust Then he told the man "Hey I know someplace where there aren't any snakes. Let's go there" The man then walked with him to the local hospital.

I have several times used the same technique when confronted by potentially violent psychotic people and it worked on those occasions.

Scott Adams of Dilbert fame is also a trained hypnotist and talks about this sometimes on his YouTube channel.

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Pierce Morgan vs Nick Fuentes
https://www.youtube.com/live/X_KXvjOJ7Y ... ACsbofhGFZ

I thought this was very entertaining to watch. Pierce appeared getting a bit nervous and swampy under his tight british arm pits.

F*ck Intense // Nick Fuentes did quite well. Maybe he serves a metaphysical purpose in the self-cleansing, re-inventing spirit of the USA as the provocative jester he is.

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SH, when spot on he is.



This can be traced back to: when a (political) culture is saturated with meta-physical beliefs, it always is vulnerable to meta-physical excesses, psychotic machinations included. The Christo-Judeo Conservatives had it all coming yet seem surprised, angry, confused when it happens - again.

According to Dr. Phil, there is nothing wrong with meta-physical beliefs, when held tentatively and with caution.

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The Meta-Physics of Tribal Certainty

BS is an American of conservative religious denomination. He is principled. Deeply so. He believes in personal responsibility, in family, in moral order, in limits. He is skeptical of the progressive left’s ever-expanding language of grievance and identity, its ritualized moral shaming, its bureaucratic abstractions detached from embodied life.

But he is equally opposed to what he calls the “woke right”: the conspiratorial America-First subculture that replaces progressive identity politics with a mirror image of its own—resentment, apocalyptic narratives, coded enemies, and the ever-present suspicion that somewhere, hidden hands are pulling all strings. He finds especially distasteful the lazy reflex to blame Israel, or “the Jews,” or any symbolic scapegoat for the structural crises of a complex civilization.

On much of this, BS makes sense. He is rational in his defense of stable institutions. He is right that mass culture has grown deranged. He is right that conspiratorial thinking corrodes public life. He is right that both left and right can become intoxicated by myth.

And yet.

There is a large elephant in the room—one that BS does not see.

The Invisible Emissions of Identity

Every tightly bonded metaphysical community emits something into the social atmosphere. Not literally, of course. But functionally, it behaves like a chemical signature.

When a group claims not only that it possesses truth, but that its metaphysical story is the organizing architecture of reality itself—when it frames its moral grammar as the foundation upon which even its critics unknowingly stand—it emits a signal.

It may be a calm signal. A disciplined signal. A polite signal.

But it is still a signal of metaphysical totality.

And human beings are exquisitely sensitive to such signals.

Spend enough time with someone who sincerely believes he is Napoleon. Or that his entire tribe consists of Napoleonites. Even if he is otherwise polite, intelligent, and law-abiding, something in you will tighten. You may not consciously reject him. But your nervous system registers a distortion in shared reality.

Conviction at that level is not neutral.

Strong ego structures—and even more powerful “wego” structures, collective identities that fuse personal worth with group narrative—trigger ancient detection systems. Long before political philosophy, before theology, before constitutions, human organisms survived by distinguishing in-group from out-group.

These mechanisms operate beneath ideology.

Two groups may both pride themselves on enlightenment, rationality, and pragmatic political programs. They may agree on most policy questions. But if each carries a deep metaphysical center that says, “Our narrative is the true organizing principle of history,” then biology whispers:

They are not us.

And biology is not impressed by footnotes.

The Smell of Otherness

Humans do not literally smell ideological difference. But metaphorically, the experience is similar.

The other group “sounds reasonable.”
“They make good points.”
“They seem intelligent.”

And yet something feels off.

Not because of policy. Not because of intelligence. But because identity is territorial.

A community that grounds its moral authority in a sacred narrative—especially one tied to chosenness, covenant, divine mandate, or civilizational destiny—projects a field of meaning. It says: history bends through us.

Even if expressed humbly, the structural implication remains.

And when another group, with its own sacred narrative—religious or secular—encounters this, the reaction is predictable. Defensive differentiation. Boundary tightening. Narrative counter-myths.

The cycle escalates.

Each group begins to attribute irrationality to the other. Each begins to suspect hidden motives. Each claims its own ethical superiority.

It is not theology that drives this. It is organismic boundary defense.

The Claim of Moral Origination

Here the problem deepens.

BS and his tribal kin often assert that whatever moral goodness exists outside their tradition ultimately derives from their tradition. That even those who reject the Judeo-Christian narrative are still beneficiaries of the moral architecture it established.

It is an elegant claim. And unfalsifiable.

But precisely because it is unfalsifiable, it floats free of evidence.

History does not cooperate with such exclusivity. Under every banner—religious, secular, nationalist, revolutionary—human beings have committed extraordinary acts of cruelty. Under those same banners, they have also performed astonishing acts of courage, compassion, and self-sacrifice.

No single metaphysical framework monopolizes virtue. None monopolizes vice.

To insist that moral goodness in others is merely a derivative shadow of one’s own sacred tradition is not a historical argument. It is a tribal reflex dressed as philosophy.

And that reflex, again, emits a signal.

It says: even your goodness belongs to us.

That signal does not invite cooperation. It invites resistance.

Biology Beneath Belief

BS sees clearly the irrationalities of the progressive left. He sees the excesses of conspiratorial populism. He recognizes scapegoating as corrosive.

But he does not see how strong metaphysical group identity—any strong metaphysical group identity—activates the same ancient machinery he criticizes in others.

When identity fuses with sacred narrative, critique becomes existential threat. When existential threat is perceived, biology narrows perception. Nuance fades. Out-group markers intensify.

The tragedy is that the mechanism is symmetrical.

The progressive activist who sacralizes social justice.
The conspiratorial nationalist who sacralizes sovereignty.
The religious conservative who sacralizes covenantal civilization.

Each believes himself rational. Each can articulate coherent arguments. Each may live an otherwise pragmatic, productive life.

And yet the underlying dynamic is similar.

The stronger the metaphysical certainty, the stronger the boundary defense.

The Elephant

The elephant in the room is not that BS is wrong about everything. He is not.

It is that no community is exempt from the biological consequences of metaphysical totalization.

The moment a group frames its narrative as uniquely foundational—whether through divine revelation, historical destiny, revolutionary inevitability, or moral enlightenment—it steps into a territory where identity and survival intertwine.

And when survival intertwines with identity, reason becomes secondary.

The “woke right” scapegoats Israel or “the Jews.”
The progressive left scapegoats systemic phantoms.
The religious traditionalist imagines himself the guardian of moral civilization.

Each accuses the other of irrationality.

Each fails to see the invisible emissions of its own certainty.

Toward Awareness

The way out is not the abandonment of belief. Nor is it moral relativism.

It is awareness of the biological substrate beneath metaphysics.

To recognize that conviction—especially collective conviction—alters the atmosphere between groups.

To understand that ego and wego structures, however noble, trigger ancient pattern recognition systems.

To admit that no banner inoculates a community against cruelty.

And to resist the intoxicating comfort of moral origination myths.

BS is not a villain. He is, in many respects, thoughtful and principled. But until he sees that his own tribe’s metaphysical self-understanding participates in the same organismic dynamics he critiques elsewhere, he will remain trapped in partial vision.

The crisis of modern civilization is not merely ideological. It is biological, tribal, and narrative at once.

And the first step toward sanity is to notice what we are breathing into the room.