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Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:Why are you comparing buying Skittles to sexual assault,

instead of mounting someone and raining punches with sexual assault?

Enki wrote:Comparing this guy to Zimmerman who likely STARTED the fight with Trayvon is silly.

This guy should not go to jail.

Endovelico wrote:

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:An unarmed man was beaten to death by a vigilante who named himself judge, jury, and executioner. While there is evidence that the victim may have been engaging in an assault when the killer attacked him, he is dead so we will never hear his side of the story. Whatever led up to the brutal killing, the only thing we know for sure is that there is a dead body. Join me in calling for justice. Hopefully we don't have to wait two months for this killer to be charged with murder.

A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said...

The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/t ... ?hpt=hp_t2

I would have shot the bastard in the head without any remorse. But I wouldn't call it justice. I would call it revenge and then go quietly to jail...

(Portugal is an exception. The stoic Portuguese work hard and pay their taxes, which gives that small country a better shot than Spain.)

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote: Your catch-all retort of racism accusations loses more power every day,

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:1. There is no evidence that the sexual assault actually took place, except the word of the killer and some medical evidence on the alleged victim.

2. There is no evidence that Martin was assaulting Zimmerman, except the word of the killer and some medical evidence on the alleged victim, and eye-witnesses who claim to have seen Martin straddling Zimmerman and beating him.

Whether Martin was provoked by Zimmerman into violently assaulting him

is as irrelevant to a murder charge as whether the alleged rapist was provoked by the little girl.

If Martin had continued his assault,

I'm not calling for the killer's guilt, just that he be charged with murder and tried.

Ibrahim wrote:But in the ... case the important thing is for a medical examiner to confirm the allegations of ... assault. If they appear to be legitimate then it would be reasonable not to charge the killer at that point.

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:

Ibrahim wrote:But in the Texas case the important thing is for a medical examiner to confirm the allegations of sexual assault. If they appear to be legitimate then it would be reasonable not to charge the killer at that point. Not that you actually care.

It took several months, but we finally got you to say something reasonable.

monster_gardener wrote:Goldman Spengler likes the Portuguese and says you are hard working, pay your taxes..........

(Portugal is an exception. The stoic Portuguese work hard and pay their taxes, which gives that small country a better shot than Spain.)

http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2012/05/28/ ... epage=true

Probably all true but Call me cynical when I wonder if Goldman Spengler has a favorite Portuguese wine...

Adkins' parents say they don't believe their son's shooting was racially motivated.

Daniel Adkins Jr. was mentally disabled and lived with his parents. They say he was on his usual evening walk with their yellow Labrador, Lady.

About a mile from home, he walked in front of a silver Pontiac Grand Am in the parking lot of the Taco Bell, according to the police report of the shooting.

In the car was Cordell Jude, 22, and his girlfriend, who was eight months pregnant. Police have not publicly identified Jude, but he is named in the police report.

Jude had to brake fast in order to avoid hitting Adkins, he told police.

"Watch it!" he said Adkins yelled and added an obscenity. Adkins then moved to the driver's side door and swung an object that Jude describes in the police report as a bat or pipe. Jude's girlfriend also told police that Adkins swung what looked like a bat or a pipe . Nothing hit Jude or the car, the report says.

Jude then pulled his Smith and Wesson .40-caliber handgun from where he carried it — inside his sweatpants on his right hip, the police report says.

"Holding the gun in his right hand, with the barrel pointed toward Adkins, Jude racked the slide of the gun, loading a round into its chamber," the report says. "Jude stated that as Adkins raised an arm as if to swing at him again, Jude shot him once in the torso."

Adkins died, holding his dog's colorful green leash, in his right hand. The officers who responded to the scene found the dog still at his side. They did not find a pipe, bat or other weapon.

Jude said he didn't drive away from the confrontation because the dog was in the way. He told police he feared for his life and the lives of his girlfriend and their unborn baby. In response to a follow-up question by investigators, Jude said he did not think Adkins would have killed them, but he thought Adkins was trying to hurt him.

Jude did not return telephone calls for comment. A woman who answered the door at his suburban Phoenix home recently said Jude was not home and no one else in the family would comment.

The police report recommended second-degree murder charges against Jude. Police spokesman Sgt. Tommy Thompson would not discuss the case except to say the investigation continues.

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:Thanks MG. I'm just trying to get answers. Right now, the only things we know for certain are that an unarmed man is dead, and that another man killed him. We have no way of knowing what led up to the killing, since one of the parties is dead. It may be that the victim was engaged in an unlawful assault, but last time I checked, we do not execute people for sexual assault, nor do we permit private citizens to make that decision on their own. The truth is, we'll never know exactly what happened that led up to the killing, which is why this man must be charged with murder and put before a jury. The girl may bear the marks of an assault, but Zimmerman's bore all the marks of a violent one-sided beating and we all know he is a murderer.

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:but Zimmerman's bore all the marks of a violent one-sided beating and we all know he is a murderer.